[StomperNet] Steering People with Storytelling
Hello again!
If you did your homework, you've opted in at Mark Joyner's site
to watch the 2 Joe Sugarman videos I told you about yesterday.
As promised, here's my little "cheat sheet" of notes that will
help you break down and study Joe's masterful presentation, and
hopefully use a couple of his tactics in your OWN marketing.
And don't forget to join Mark, Joe, AND Ted Nicholas tonight at
8pm for a LIVE webinar. You should have already been registered
if you signed up to see video 2. If you didn't, there's still
time!
Plus – FAIR WARNING – Here be *SPOILERS*! I'm going to talk IN
DETAIL about some of the sneaky, cool tricks Joe used in his
presentation, and the effect of seeing it work will be RUINED
if you don't watch the videos FIRST. (So go already!)
Once you've watched both videos, start here:
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Steering People with Storytelling
What I love about Joe's presentation here is how it shows an
extremely masterful use of storytelling, and how he uses this
powerful tool to accomplish multiple different goals – all of
which cumulatively add to the power of his closing offer.
Here are a few things I spotted. Consider how Joe used these
methods, and how YOU might be able to adapt them to your OWN
marketing.
Creating Curiosity
The longest running story in Joe's presentation had to do with
the Batman credit cards. Did you notice how that one plot
thread was woven through Joe's whole presentation, tying the
ending to the beginning?
When you have a long sales letter or sales pitch, you want to
have some kind of unifying thread like this simply because it
makes it easier for people to stick with you through your pitch
if you give them something worthwhile to pay attention to.
The viewer's desire to know the end of the Batman story
literally tugs at you through the whole presentation. In all
honestly, 100% of my decision to commit to watching Part 2 of
Joe's video based on my unshakable curiosity about the Batman
cards. Would Joe EVER get to sell them? Would they be a huge
hit? How does it END???
Curiosity is a powerful force. It's a MAGNET that draws
people's full attention. It's also a powerful motivator – in
this case the video was split just where it needed to be so
that the REAL ACTION Mark wanted from me (signing up for the
webinar) seemed like NOTHING.
The itch of curiosity was so strong that it was WORTH my name
and email address so I could scratch that itch with the
resolution of the story I had become so involved with.
Giving Value to the Worthless
Also notice how the card itself is literally worthless. Joe
has a whole useless pile of these things sitting in storage for
DOZENS of years. The *whole point* of Joe's story about the
card is that it was a flop – a failure. A miss.
But it's that VERY SAME STORY that creates a value for the card
NOW. The formerly worthless card is magically transformed into
a desirable item simply BECAUSE of its unique life story. If
you have one, then YOU have that cool story to tell.
I like to think of this as "Pedigree". A Pedigree gives value
to something, even if the item itself has little or no value.
Other examples of this are those little garden gnome statues.
I'm sure everyone's heard the stories about the "kidnapped"
gnomes? Basically, a person swiped a neighbor's garden gnome
before setting off on a world tour. The "gnomenapper" sends
the neighbor postcards and photos of their lowly little gnome
in famous scenes from around the globe.
Eventually the gnome returns home with a photo album of his
globe-trotting adventures.
Suddenly, a cheap, poorly made, ceramic lawn ornament becomes a
priceless object. All because it has a Pedigree, a History, a
STORY.
Maybe an even better example: when you catch a home run ball at
a baseball game, is that ball physically worth anything more
than any other baseball? No, not really. But what if it's the
winning home run of a historic World Series? Nope, the ball is
still physically worth the same as any other dumb old baseball.
But the STORY, the PEDIGREE, the HISTORY – that can actually
add an INCREDIBLE value to an otherwise worthless item.
The desire to be a part of those kinds of historic, epic
stories is what drives us to want these kind of items.
What Joe does here is create a wonderful, engaging story, and
by offering you a Batman card at the end, he invites you to be
a PART of that story – to make it your OWN story.
By the end, I wanted one of those worthless pieces of plastic
so bad I went straight to eBay to see in I could find one.
Breeding Familiarity
Last week, I talked about how engaging both the emotional and
logical parts of your prospect's mind can help you create
powerful calls to action.
Well in order for people to trust you enough to let you
interact with them emotionally, you need to become FAMILIAR to
them. Joe does this in his presentation through telling you
humanizing stories of his failures.
If you've ever struck out with a girl you really liked, you
felt empathy with Joe when he told you about how he studied for
weeks to become an expert in San Diego so he could impress a
girl who was from there – only to find out she was from
Sacramento, after all.
I'm sure if any of you have been in business for long,
especially the bootstrap, entrepreneurial kind of business, you
can DEEPLY relate to Joe's stories of having to borrow money
from friends. You can also feel his pain when he repeatedly
strikes out with selling his Batman cards – we all know what
it's like when an idea fails.
Through these humanizing anecdotes, the audience comes to feel
a kinship with Joe. "He gets knocked around by life, just like
me!"
Manufacturing Trust
So Joe's heartwarming tales of overcoming common struggles of
life and business allowed him to create an emotional bond with
you. He also uses storytelling to engage with what I spoke
about last week, your "Lazy Skeptic".
He needs his audience to trust him. Now due to those emotional
connections he made with his other stories, he HAS convinced
you that he has a trustworthy character.
He even tells you this in his video – when he talked about how
he paid every penny back to the investors in his failed
business, even though it took years of hard work.
But he also needs you to trust his FACTS, not just his
intentions. You know he's a good guy at heart, but can you
believe his other claims?
Well he proves it through demonstrating Authority.
The stories about his incredible business successes with Blu-
Blockers, and his advertising agency, and how he gives seminars
for people in beautiful Hawaii… those all give him
credibility as an expert in his chosen field. The help
establish his position of AUTHORITY.
Of course, the killer introduction he was given before he took
the stage helped too.
Do you think you would have been as likely to watch Joe's whole
presentation if you hadn't been told who he was before he got
started?
I doubt it – but he was presented as an authority, and his
story confirmed it.
If the Wildest Claim is True…
Here's another cool thing Joe did. Do you remember when he
revealed his time working for the CIA as a spy in Germany,
helping Russians defect?
That's a pretty insane claim, right? How many people can boast
of that kind of experience?
Well he also said that as part of his training, he needed to
learn to speak perfect, fluent German, without an accent.
Did you catch later in his talk, where he actually spoke in
German?
Do you see how by providing this little detail of proof for his
most OUTRAGEOUS claim makes every other claim he made easily
more believable?
Let this serve as a reminder – when you need to provide proof
for your own products and services, do what you can to prove
your MOST EXTREME claim. If you can do that, everything else
you claim will usually be taken at face value, making it much
easier to make your case for a sale or deal.
Greasing the Chute
Now, one of the most powerful things Joe did with this
presentation is a cool little time manipulation. You'll recall
he insists that everyone fill out his order for at the
*beginning* of the presentation.
What this allows him to do is create an actual sense of URGENCY
and SCARCITY at the end of the presentation, when he drops the
price for only one minute.
If you DID fill out the form like he asked, you can immediately
hand it in. It lowered the level of commitment for those that
followed the instructions. They didn't need to *snap* out of
the moment to get their wallet and fill out the form. All they
had to do was say "yes" and hand over a piece of paper.
Now when that flurry of people jumped at his offer, what do you
think happened to the people that had NOT followed his
instructions?
You can practically HEAR them FRANTICALLY filling out the forms
because he left them NO TIME to reconsider, and they were even
further pressured by all the people turning in the forms in
front of them.
It reminds me of this recurring nightmare I have where I'm
still in school and I forgot a test, and everyone is turning in
their final report and my page is BLANK!
It makes you gasp and gulp and rush.
And he creates that frenzy without trying very hard at all!
It's amazing to watch.
Be Consistent and Authentic
The final thing that Joe did, which I thought was very subtle
but VERY powerful – was PROVE that he was being authentic with
his scarcity play.
Now I'm not saying this really was pre-arranged, but he
couldn't have planned it better.
When the guy from the audience tries to turn in his form to Joe
LATE, and Joe turns him down… Remember that?
I bet any doubt or skepticism ANYONE had about Joe and whether
he was for real, and whether giving him their credit card
number was a safe thing to do… I bet it VANISHED when he did
that.
Why?
Simply because he PROVED that he would DO what he SAID.
By proving that you will do what you say – that your claims
(and stories) are AUTHENTIC – that you will behave CONSISTANTLY
with your words – you win nearly unbreakable trust from your
audience.
See, Joe made a SPECIAL offer to those who acted and took his
offer during that minute. People LOVE to feel special and to
be a part of something special.
If he had just let that guy squeak in, it would have erased the
"special-ness" of his offer. You can even hear some of the
audience boo-ing the guy trying to sneak in his order form!
They were boo-ing because Joe created the EXPECTATION that they
needed to act fast. He MET that expectation when he turned the
straggler down. All he did was behave consistant with what he
said, and the crowd LOVED him for it.
And there's a good reason I'm closing with that point. These
techniques I'm revealing to you here are EXTREMELY powerful.
When you get good at persuasion, it's as close to a superpower
or real-life magic spells as you can get.
And because of that, we ALL have a RESPONSIBILITY to be
Authentic and Consistent – We MUST NEVER use these powers to
manipulate people into doing something harmful. We MUST NEVER
use these powers to leave people in worse shape than we met
them. We MUST NEVER lie or be dishonest when we tell these
powerful kinds of stories.
In exchange for my teaching you about all these little "secret"
tricks and tactics, all I ask is that you dedicate yourself to
being one of the "good guys" in our industry.
Because we all know there's way too many of the bad.
Until next time,
Keep Stomping
~Andy Jenkins
P.S. DON'T FORGET – I didn't make ANY of this stuff up – all
the cool stuff I talk about here comes from Joe Sugarman's
videos on this page. If you already signed up there, don't
miss the chance to get on the LIVE webinar TONIGHT at 8pm
Eastern – Joe himself, Ted Nichols, and Mark Joyner – all
MASTERS of the art and science of persuasion. Join them and
hear them talk WAY more about this kind of thing. I'll be
there listening myself.
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"I learned so much from this long story, even till this day that is something that my grandchildren would be interested in hearing. WOW. Just listening inbetween the lines. Listen to the oldtimers that Know. (And never gave up) Thank you very mucho."
–agreed–
I cannot portray through words on the internet how wonderful and appreciated your efforts have been with educating like minded internet marketers with your material. With that I wish you GREAT success in all ways that success can be measured.
Hi Andy,
Since I have been in this amazing world of StomperNet, I realized that the learning curve depends highly on the credibility of the source. I have already knew some of the info but I was never as sure as now of their efficiency till I heard them from the successful marketers here
Any chance I get to listen to Mr. Sugarman I go for it. He's a very entertaining speaker and he was a pioneer in a few forms of advertising that became standard proactices. Cheers
:)
Andy,
Thanks for the great summary of Mr. Sugarman's videos. It is really helpful when someone brings out all the good, important points. This helped me ensure I don't miss the "cream".
Gerald
I learned so much from this long story, even till this day that is something that my grandchildren would be interested in hearing. WOW. Just listening inbetween the lines. Listen to the oldtimers that Know. (And never gave up) Thank you very mucho.
Yes Guys keep posting this stuff it would have to be one of the most informative blogs online without any catch at the end of it.
Hey Andy & Gang,
I'd like to personally thank you guys for taking some of the most valuable knowledge, turning it upside down, shaking it, and then squeezing every bit of usefulness from it as possible and actually sharing it with us through your [free] communication medium. I cannot portray through words on the internet how wonderful and appreciated your efforts have been with educating like minded "internet marketers" with your material. With that I wish you GREAT success in all ways that success can be measured.
John Dennis
West Palm Beach, FL
Great article. Thanks for sharing. Proves once again that honesty is always the best policy. And Joe Sugarman, as always, is super!
Chris Pirkey
Nice pick-up on "If the wildest claim is true…"
Great point. I like that a lot.
P.S. I have a batman card.
I saw Joe live at a Mark Joyner event in LA several years ago.
He's a classic.
Hi Andy!
When I watched it and it came to the point where he did that 1-minute-offer, I was smiling all over my face – unbelievable how smart this guy is!!
I was really impressed!! 

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Thank you very much for sharing your insights on the genius speech of Joe Sugerman!
Your article really is a very good summary of the techniques Joe Sugerman used, wonderful work from you and thank you again for sharing!!
And of course I recommend to all the readers here the "Triggers" book by Joe Sugerman, it is that powerful!! (Just started reading it and I'm already blown away!!
Have a wonderful day, many many success and be happy!!
Lot's of greetings from Germany!!
André
P.S.: He was really speaking nearly akcent-fre..
I'm testing out my new mind and story telling abilities
You know when your talking about the Pedigree. there is another that I wanted to share with everyone too.
Some of you may remember one that was about a Penguin Ceramic Series that was going around for sometime. It was very uniquic and very beautiful on its returning home.
Have some of you heard of these clubs that you can join that use GPS to hide little boxes of trinkets and a note book. You get the information from some website ( I know not where) and you take down these GPS locations and find these mystery boxes, no. These time capsules, no thats not there name either. Anyway you get the idea I hope; you retrieve that box of stuff and you take something out of the container and place something back in its place and sign the notebook. Not only do you sign the note book but you also place the GPS location of your secret stash box, oops!
I hope that wasn't a secret!
And then while your out and about some of these GPS coordinates are like little secret nic-nac party locations; no kinding. This is for real! And these people take pictures of these little parties with all kinds of little pieces from all over the world. And these stay for a short period of time, whilst the carrier is in the area perhaps doing other things. They return and take a few more pictures, pick up their item and return home.
Its Publishing time
These are then uploaded to that same site where other images or photo are stored from other locations with all kinds of different little wiggets from all over the world in similar situations, like its there extended family.
And no I'm not on DRUGS!
And the cycle repeats its self over and over to where a little cuttie from one place of the world will windup in a little treasure box on the other side of the world and one from that other side of the world will also be found in another part of the world too.
We are all friends
But these kewl little wiggets thingies all have a point of origin because of these little photo parties. That little what ever you want to call it can be found by looking in the photos and you can see it move from one place to the next. From one continent to another as it moves are and you also have the exact GPS stops made in these weird treks around the world.
The bottom line is this is a new family, with a new set of peers and a new set of circumstances are brought out with photos and a smal hand held device called a GPS that brings them to you and for everyones pleasure.
So, what has your Penquin done for you lately?
Wisky, KC MO USA
Hi Andy
You have done exactly what I was planning to do and draw out the main issues from the great video.
Like you I was hooked on the Batman story. It was a concern that after 45 minutes of the first video, I still didn't know the ending so still had to go on.
Mind you Mark also played his part with his "10 greatest minutes in marketing history" question.
Hey Andy great post, I didnt watch the video but after reading about it I am going to go straight away and check it out,
Rich
Any chance I get to listen to Mr. Sugarman I go for it. He's a very entertaining speaker and he was a pioneer in a few forms of advertising that became standard proactices. Cheers -
I can't believe how much valuable info you guy just give away! There's way too much info out there these days, but yours is really worth the time!
Andy, VERY insightful analysis of the Sugarman video.
David